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#1 The subject of the Wall of the Faithless came up in the discussion of the Book of Exalted Deeds again, and I was wondering. what does that thing even do? I mean I know what it does, it imprisons people without faith in the afterlife. I mean in what way does it enrich the setting or serve as a storyhook? Because I can't think of anything.
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Re: The Wall of the Faithless. You know, I remember one of the old 2E sourcebooks that said that Asmodeus, the Overlord of the 9 Hells, gained power from unbelief. Every being in the multiverse that rejects the gods ends up having their soul consumed in an excruciatingly long and painful process by the Overlord.
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2 Answers Sorted by: 42 Alright, this is going to delve into both canon and conjecture, as it must for such a nebulous topic. I'll break them down so we know which is which. The Many Gods of the Dead As has been noted (correctly), the Wall of the Faithless was established by Myrkul.
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The Wall of the Faithless is the large wall that encircles the City of Judgement on the Fugue Plane, made of the souls of the faithless. It plays a major role in the story of Mask of the Betrayer campaign. Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow. Contents 1 The Wall of the Faithless 2 The Betrayer's Crusade 3 The Second Crusade
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#1 I figured this could use its own thread. One of the things that has always got under my skin about FR was that if you didn't pick a patron deity for your character, your afterlife was to get stuck in a wall, regardless of your actions in life. The earliest mention I can find of this is the 2e-era Faiths & Avatars:
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So not super steeped in FR lore, but doing some skimming, the Wall of Faithless was something imposed by Myrkul, who was a relative upstart as far as the Faerun pantheon went and then went through a "has been" phase as one of the Dead Three to "present day" FR where he sort of maintains literal cult status with those same Dead Three.
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We add a Shadow of the Void essence to Gann's Blade of the Elements before leaving the Temple of Kelemvor to find our soul within the Wall of the Faithless..
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What happened to the Wall of the Faithless? 5th Edition Hello everyone! Reading throught the 2020 errata for the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, I found out that the section mentioning the Wall of the Faithless has apparently been deleted.
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Being consigned to suffering if you don't suck up enough to the deities and in a way and form they arbitrarily deem sufficient seems unnecessarily cruel to me, if it's just there to spite those who didn't sell their souls, no matter how virtueous a life they led or if they even had the time or the mental capacity to make such a decision.
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In the Avatar series, during the re-evaluation (Trial of Cyric is in front of me as I type this), it's not that there wasn't a Wall of the Faithless when Kelemvor showed off the changes to his city, it's that the author simply didn't describe the wall in the description.
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The Wall of the Faithless was the wall surrounding the City of Judgment on the Fugue Plane, according to the World Tree cosmology, or surrounding the City of the Dead in the Oinos layer of Hades, according to the Great Wheel cosmology. When faithful mortals died, they could petition their respective gods for entry to their plane of influence.
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The point of the Wall is to frighten mortals into faithfulness to the gods (ANY god) to sustain their existence, once they are frightened that's the job done. There's no particular need to have a horrible real Wall except to sustain the fear. During the dream sequence with Bishop, you can hear the chilling sounds of children screaming in the wall.
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The wall of the faithless is actually a massive contradiction for most of the lore. Ed Greenwood is on record as saying that most realms folk worship multiple gods, however the Wall of the Faithless implies that if you don't have a primary god for go-to worship, you're going to the wall of the faithless..
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Walkthrough When you arrive at the Wall of the Faithless (#1), Kelemvor will talk to you. Depending on how you reached this spot, he'll either be happy with you or disappointed in you, but he won't try to stop you. You'll find your soul in the middle of the Wall (#2).
